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TEA
TIME in L.A. 3/24 (7-8 PM Bronze Time) Today's Topic:
DoubleMeat Morality
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 Welcome to TEA TIME in L.A. (7-8 PM
Bronze Time) ... Posted by: forensicpopouri - Mar 24, 2002, 7:00
PM
TODAY'S SONNET LINK: Buffy's
DOUBLEMEAT
MORALITY http://www.buffy.com/bronze_posts.jsp?tid=49007
Hope
stating time in Broze time will help.
<smile>
Tea Time in L.A.
is
4-5 PM Out here in
California
5-6 PM in the
Rockies
6-7 PM in the Big Easy
7-8
PM in the Big Apple ... and on the Bronze
clock.
12-1 AM in London (note Daylight
Savings yada yada yada)
Still working
out the art (and science) of Tea Time
...
I'll be here this hour.
Whenever that is.
<g>
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PREVIOUSLY
POSTED SONNETS:
#1: BEYOND "NORMAL
AGAIN" - tid=46649
#2: RILEY & SAM'S
GROWN-UP-ITUDE - tid=47071
#3: WHAT DO WE
HOLD SACRED? - tid=47636
#4-7 WHY I POST IN
SHAKESPEAREAN SONNETS (4-sonnet sequence) PART
1 - tid=48156 PART 2 - tid=48152
you
speak
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 Responses (in reverse order) [note: first 9 posts lost]
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 and so I say POOF ... until tomorrow
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| Posted by:
forensicpopouri - Mar 24, 2002, 8:04
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| TEA TIME was
brought to you by sponsors who would die if they
knew I was using their money this way.
KIDDING <g>
(?)
POOF

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 "an undead Love God..."
| Posted by:
Pleasant
Guest - Mar 24,
2002, 7:59 PM |
| giggle

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 closing remarks as I go
POOF
| Posted by:
forensicpopouri - Mar 24, 2002, 7:59
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| Bless your hearts (as
ex-pat Tennessean's in L.A. say) for dropping
by.
Special note to prunehilda that I read
your comment in other thread about how you want to
use poetry to (bad paraphrase to follow) transcend
your science/technological niche.
I hope
you all will keep in mind that I'm not really insane
<smile> ... and that you might consider some
thinking-in-verse.
FOOTNOTE: See my 4-sonnet
sequence on why I post in Shakesperean
sonnets.
I'll look around one more time ... but
then POOF.

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 are there stupid
questions?
| Posted by:
Pleasant
Guest - Mar 24,
2002, 7:58 PM |
| :)

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 it's 1am
| Posted by:
holywater - Mar 24, 2002, 7:56
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| now...gotta
go...
final DMP verdict: who cares about burgers,
Buffy's in love with an undead love God and won't admit
it and just been raised from the dead......hmmm perhaps
that's why DMP wasn't very popular...
nice
talking to you all again - I'll look out for tea another
day..

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 as the Bronze clock turns
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| Posted by:
forensicpopouri - Mar 24, 2002, 7:53
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| HAIKU
If I talk
bigger
will they pay more attention
to
stupid questions?
<g>

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 misplaced my episode guide ... (for
holywater) is "Dead Things" right after
DMP?
| Posted by:
forensicpopouri - Mar 24, 2002, 7:49
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| see
above

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 forensicpopouri...
| Posted by:
Pleasant
Guest - Mar 24,
2002, 7:48 PM |
| no, not fine (as in
morally accpetable)
but acceptable in the sense
that we empathise with her possible motives... (smile,
sniffle some more.)

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 no mad cow yet (that I know
of)
| Posted by:
Pleasant
Guest - Mar 24,
2002, 7:47 PM |
| But (snif) some wild
bovines (deer) have been discovered with "similar" signs
of the disease. I hope the industry recovers quickly
because I like my beef so rare it's still a bit
cool...and the restaurants won't make it for
me.

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 regarding the doublemeat lie
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| Posted by:
forensicpopouri - Mar 24, 2002, 7:46
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| HAIKU
If we took a
vote,
would the majority say
B's silence
is fine?

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 is Dead Things
| Posted by:
holywater - Mar 24, 2002, 7:46
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| my next ep? - with
lots of Spike/Buffy action? <pant>
And
you've gotta get back on the horse with love and be
courageous don't you think?

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 Hi Holywater
| Posted by:
prunehilda - Mar 24, 2002, 7:44
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| Don't get me wrong. I
watch Buffy because I like my fantasy fantastic, my
reality in technicolor and I'm old enough to know that
morality comes in every shade of grey immaginable and
then some.

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 perhaps she thought
| Posted by:
holywater - Mar 24, 2002, 7:43
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| she was doing people a
favour. After all vegetables - low fat, no mad cows (do
u have mad cow's?)

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 holywater...apologies
(SNEEZE!)
| Posted by:
Pleasant
Guest - Mar 24,
2002, 7:43 PM |
| "fess up" means to
confess...
Well, Buffy keeps lots of different
secrets and tells lots of lies when you really think
about it...
her whole identity is a front...she
doesn't walk around advertising who she is and what she
does.
As for love...she's been burned a lot and
really hurt.

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 Spike & Buffy
| Posted by:
forensicpopouri - Mar 24, 2002, 7:41
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| HAIKU
If we talked
of Spike
"Dead Things" is the place to
be.
Not in
"DoubleMeat."
<smile>

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 forensicpopouri (lovelu haiku)
dear
| Posted by:
Pleasant
Guest - Mar 24,
2002, 7:40 PM |
| grits anyone? with
butter (I know butter is a big no-no for colds but it
does feel so nice when it's being eaten.)
Using
"phony" meat is probably not the same as cannibalising
folks.
Maybe in the big picture, and because of
her own troubles, Buffy just wasn't so worried about
ethics...

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 "fessing up"?
| Posted by:
holywater - Mar 24, 2002, 7:39
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| Please explain your
unknown US expression.
Well in my experience if
someone turns you on like Spike does Buffy then you're
in love with him. But she keeps saying she despises him
- liar! It reminds me of really old-fashioned romantic
movies....I love it. The ice queen should always melt in
the end though don't you think?

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 aside:
| Posted by:
forensicpopouri - Mar 24, 2002, 7:38
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| HAIKU
Hated
"DoubleMeat."
If it had been a good
ep,
I'd overlook lie.
<g>

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 holywater...Hi!
| Posted by:
Pleasant
Guest - Mar 24,
2002, 7:36 PM |
| why do you think Buffy
is a hypocrite for not "fessing up" about
Spike?

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 HAIKU: <smile>
| Posted by:
forensicpopouri - Mar 24, 2002, 7:36
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Buffy needs
the cash.
She keeps DoubleMeat's
secret.
Would you do the
same?

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 I
still think
| Posted by:
holywater - Mar 24, 2002, 7:35
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| Spike deserves more
attention than corporate evil..otherwise Buffy will turn
into the 6 o-clock news (yawn). Apologise in advance to
those with a social conscience *weg*

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 they made
| Posted by:
holywater - Mar 24, 2002, 7:33
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| like a zillion dollars
+ never paid any tax?

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 still reading everyone's posts ... and
seeking some profound synthesis of this
moment
| Posted by:
forensicpopouri - Mar 24, 2002, 7:32
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| <smile>
Perhaps if
I try replying in Haiku.
<g>
(pondering)

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 Thanks
| Posted by:
holywater - Mar 24, 2002, 7:31
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| prunehilda - I've just
twigged the Enron reference..I forgot...

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 However, we all do have some
responsibility
| Posted by:
prunehilda - Mar 24, 2002, 7:29
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| If we all turn a blind
eye in every case of corporate illegitimacy then we
carry some of the blame. Of course many of the problems
are not as serious as Enron which I see as an attack on
democracy. The Enron scandal has undermined parts of the
economy. We will see legislation that will correct this
situation. I am Canadian but there will even be
legislation here.

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 DMP
| Posted by:
holywater - Mar 24, 2002, 7:28
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| ...(not my favourite)
was the last in UK. I think Buffy's far worse sin than
the burgers is not admitting her feelings for Spike -
now there's hypocrasy (can't spell)

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 regarding Buffy episodes in England
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| Posted by:
forensicpopouri - Mar 24, 2002, 7:25
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| ... which episode are
you at now?
And does anybody know about
Australia?

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 I
see some people sneaking in and out ... making sniffling
noises <smile>
| Posted by:
forensicpopouri - Mar 24, 2002, 7:23
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| And as a general
comment... it's going to take me a few
weeks/months/years <smile> a really good way to
do Tea Time ...
... SO ... if this seems really
stupid, today
you're right.
<grin>

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 I
shall be glad
| Posted by:
holywater - Mar 24, 2002, 7:23
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| ...when we have caught
up with the US (its wierd all this repeating stuff u
have) - u all already know how long she stays there...I
am pure and untainted by spoilers...

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 Okay (sniffle) I have a
comment
| Posted by:
Pleasant
Guest - Mar 24,
2002, 7:19 PM |
| in the past episodes a
lot of the time something like this came out later on
... Maybe Buffy is disregarding it right now to some
purpose.
I think there's more to the entire DMP
gig to begin with...I mean, it's rather silly for Buffy
to even be there, she is definitely
overqualified.
There may be more to it,
you---(SNEEEZE) see?

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 Sorry not mentioning each new arrival by
name , but I'm reading all your posts.
| Posted by:
forensicpopouri - Mar 24, 2002, 7:19
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| If you didn't I'd
appreciate if you'd take a look at what I said in the
sonnet about what Buffy did in the
episode.
Willingly keeping the secret that
DoubleMeat is a lie.

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 you've lost
| Posted by:
holywater - Mar 24, 2002, 7:19
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| Amber with the sonnet
FP Mayarosa - corporate evil as in breaking the trade
description act (or US equivalaent) - lying - burgers
not meat..

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 since when
| Posted by:
mayaroza - Mar 24, 2002, 7:16
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| are corps evil? not
the dmp

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 aahhh..
| Posted by:
holywater - Mar 24, 2002, 7:15
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| so we all agreed she
can't (although have you noticed angel has a go?), but
as she has to earn money can she avoid it? Can any of us
avoid being part of it just by virtue of having to earn
a crust?

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 Hello everyone
| Posted by:
prunehilda - Mar 24, 2002, 7:15
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| Do you have any
peppermint tea? That would be lovely, thankyou. I think
the topic for this evening is ethics. It seems to me
that the Scoobies have been wallowing in moral mire and
I doubt that anyone would call Buffy on her choice to
ignore a corporate lie. Tara is the only one who has
kept her moral compass.

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 welcome new arrivals ... Did anyone
change their perception of what Buffy did due to my
sonnet ?<g>
| Posted by:
forensicpopouri - Mar 24, 2002, 7:15
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| Did I make the case?
<smile>

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 What do you mean...
| Posted by:
AmberRox - Mar 24, 2002, 7:14
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| Sorry a little
lost.

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 re holywater's comment -- my response:
corporate vs personal morality
| Posted by:
forensicpopouri - Mar 24, 2002, 7:13
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| Again, excuse
slowness ... using someone else's
computer.
Buffy can't fight corporate
evil.
But should she participate in
it?

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 very gentlemanly
| Posted by:
holywater - Mar 24, 2002, 7:12
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| of you to repost
comment FP Hi PG - your sleepy? it's 12.15am
here.

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 how could she fight organized
corruption?
| Posted by:
mayaroza - Mar 24, 2002, 7:10
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| that has to be rooted
out little at a time with diligent legal work. it would
be like batman going to congress and rooting out illegal
contributions. not much excitement either

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