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TEA TIME in L.A. (7-8 PM Bronze Time) Today's Topic: ALL MUSICAL BUFFY [verse only<g>


Welcome to TEA TIME (7-8 Bronze Time) Today's topic . . . see above/below <smile>
Posted by: forensicpopouri - Mar 27, 2002, 7:01 PM

The Powers That Tea
  have proclaimed that all Tea Time posts
     must be made in verse.
(HAIKU RECOMMENDED)

LINKS TO TODAY'S 4-SONNET SEQUENCE:ALL MUSICAL BUFFY</big
      PART 1:
          http://www.buffy.com/bronze_posts.jsp?tid=50573
      PART 2:
          http://www.buffy.com/bronze_posts.jsp?tid=50575

LIMERICK(CONDENSED VERSION of SONNETS ABOVE)

     There once was a musical: "Buffy."
     (and this post may make some folks huffy)     
       They'd have to do more
       to extract the core
       of beauty. Just "Once..."? Not enoughy!
<g>

HAIKU(SUPER CONDENSED VERSION OF TODAY'S TOPIC<g>) 

      The true Buffy style
            best fits a musical's form

              -- but one yet to come.


Welcome to Tea Time
   I'll be here for an hour . . .
      . . . until 8 Bronze Time.



NOTE: Tea Time in L.A. is 4-5 PM in L.A., 7-8 Bronze time, Midnight-1 in London, etc.
       


you speak



Responses


Forensic Popouri
Posted by: glow - Mar 28, 2002, 12:50 AM 1 of 39

Thanks for the notes. At the moment I still don't understand my mistakes, but I will study your notes and let's hope it sinks in. LOL. Okay, until the next tea time, I bid you adieu.

Adieu

*glow*



iambic pentameter notes for glow (part 1)
Posted by: forensicpopouri - Mar 28, 2002, 12:35 AM 2 of 39

Hi, glow . . . I wouldn't play schoolmarm <g> unless you wanted me to. <smile>
Here's my notes about your iambic pentameter lines. Yes, it can be a little
tricky working out a line of 10 syllables that have the accents in the right place.

The benefit of these rhetorical exercises for me (and it may turn out that way
for your as well) is that it forces me to think of different ways of saying something ...
and different things that might be said... with the requirement that they be true.

Yada yada yada <smile> . . . Here are my strictly technical notes on your lines.
(This is just about getting the accents in the right place for iambic pentameter.)



iambic pentameter notes for glow (part 2)
Posted by: forensicpopouri - Mar 28, 2002, 12:33 AM 3 of 39

Pleasant Guest
Posted by: glow - Mar 27, 2002, 7:52 PM


NOTE ACCENTS SHOULD BE: ka-BOOM ka-BOOM ka-BOOM ka-BOOM ka-BOOM

ForENsic POeTRY has RULES for TEA,       [Corrrect Iambic Pentameter]
ReSPONses AND querIES must HAVE form SEE. [Accent Error]
POSSIBLE REWRITE: "Post ALL ReSPONses, QUERies IN verse, P. "

Write SONnets OR haiKUS it's UP to YOU, [Correct Iambic Pentameter]
These POeTIC styles FOLlow THEIR own RULE. [Accent Errors]

POSSIBLE REWRITE: "Please CHOOSE poEtic STYLES that HAVE a RULE.

ShakesSPEAReAN sonNETS paRAMeTER [Slight Accent Error]
is IN the IamBIC penTAMeTER. [Slight Accent Error]

POSSIBLE REWRITE:
SHAKESpearEan type SONnets, let's be clear,
need FIVE iAMbic FEET per LINE, my DEAR.

                                               
The POem CALLED HaiKU I CHOOSE to USE [Correct Iambic Pentameter]
Three LINES long AND sylLAbles ARE the CUES. [Accent Error]

POSSIBLE REWRITE:
It's THREE lines LONG -- the SYLlaBLES are CLUES.


(Couplets in iambic pentameter, I think?)



iambic pentameter notes for glow (part 3)
Posted by: forensicpopouri - Mar 28, 2002, 12:32 AM 4 of 39

Others who sang
Posted by: glow - Mar 27, 2002, 8:01 PM


The MARti's SINGing WAS fine AND danDY [Accent Error]
And FURy SOUNDed LIKE PaVOratTI. [Accent Error]

POSSIBLE REWRITE:
Dear MARti's SINGing WAS quite FINE by ME.
And PAvoRATtii'd STYLE was FURy's KEY.



Why DIDn't JOSS sing AND join IN the FUN Correct Iambic Pentameter
     COMMENT: although correct, accenting "and"& "in" in this line doesn't read
        quite as smoothly  as perhaps another choice would.
        POSSIBLE REWRITE: "Why DIDn't JOSS sing, TOO, and JOIN the FUN."

And HAVE his SHINing MOMent IN the SUN? Correct Iambic Pentameter

(Rhyming couplets in iambic pentameter, I think?)


I WOULD like TO thank OUR kind HOST fP [Correct Iambic Pentameter
Posted by: glow - Mar 27, 2002, 8:08 PM 10 of 35


I ENjoy THE tea TIME hour AND am GLAD
                                      [Correct Iambic Pentameter but "awkward" rhythm]
Tis NOT eaSY wriTING in POeTRY, [Accent Error]
though IT is FUN I THINK I WILL go MAD. [Correct Iambic Pentameter

:o)

POSSIBLE REWRITE:
I LOVE the TEA time HO-ur AND am GLAD
 It IS not EAsy WRIting POeTRY.


END OF LESSON: <smile>



Okay it's done
Posted by: glow - Mar 27, 2002, 8:30 PM 5 of 39

PG go to tid=50659 it's all set and rarin' to go.

:o)



or..we could just
Posted by: Pleasant Guest - Mar 27, 2002, 8:24 PM 6 of 39

"get by with a little help from our friends"

lol



How about I title it
Posted by: glow - Mar 27, 2002, 8:23 PM 7 of 39

It's all about me or Red red wine makes me feel so fine. What do you think? Can you tell I'm slightly indecisive? I'm just hoping they'll find neither one interesting.

Nevermind I'm going to title it Red red wine you make me feel so fine, cause a lot of our slayer pack friends are familiar with me and my penchant for red wine and smut. LOL

:o)



well, we can do NB but then
Posted by: Pleasant Guest - Mar 27, 2002, 8:20 PM 8 of 39

we may have more folks than we bargained for (who may or may not know what we're talking about...)

whatever you'd like to call it is fine with me...I always posted as "come out comout wherever you are..."

but I don't know if the muppets know that or not. at the moment, they appear to be lurking.



Pleasant_Guest
Posted by: glow - Mar 27, 2002, 8:17 PM 9 of 39

Okay I'll start it. Hopefully they won't remember me from last night. Now I must think of a good thread title that they won't bother entering. Should I just title it as a new beginnings thread or do you have a suggestion.


FP
Posted by: glow - Mar 27, 2002, 8:16 PM 10 of 39

Sure, please make more detailed notes. I always have difficulty with the stress in Shakespearean sonnets. I'm assuming it has nothing to do with content words or regular speech patterns because I teach ESL and I teach stress and intonation to my students and there are rules to follow for putting stress on a word, so I'm thinking that sonnets are totally different. Otherwise I'm a crappy ESL teacher. LOL. Also, the syllable counting throws me off too, because usually when you add -ed to the end of a verb it adds an extra syllable sound, but sometimes it doesn't. Again, exceptions to the rule. Okay I've blathered on enough.


glow---given their penchant for plums (lazy or no)
Posted by: Pleasant Guest - Mar 27, 2002, 8:13 PM 11 of 39

perhaps it's best you start the show?


Pleasant_Guest
Posted by: glow - Mar 27, 2002, 8:11 PM 12 of 39

I will bid the rhyming world adieu
And will follow dear princess Pleasant_Guest you
We will create a brand new thread or post
To avoid the muppets I will be host.

Okay enough with the poetry, really. Have you already started a new thread or do you want me to? Plus we'll think of a code word to start it. Okay?



My Tea Time closing perroration speech: <smile>
Posted by: forensicpopouri - Mar 27, 2002, 8:11 PM 13 of 39

A note about iambic to dear glow:

 ka-BOOM, ka-BOOM, ka-BOOM, ka-BOOM, ka-BOOM <smile>

Be sure to get the BOOMs in the right place.

And only let ten syllables appear

on any line you write in Shakespeare's form.


A note to Pleasant

The "secret" plans of all The Powers that Tea

will never slip the tongue of fair, sweet me. <g>


POOF (until tomorrow)

P.S. glow, I'll make more detailed notes regarding your verses if you want me to.
Leave a note here.





   



I would like to thank our kind host FP
Posted by: glow - Mar 27, 2002, 8:08 PM 14 of 39

I enjoy the tea time hour and am glad
Tis not easy writing in poetry
though it is fun I think I will go mad.

:o)



poetry poliece? (smile absurdly)
Posted by: Pleasant Guest - Mar 27, 2002, 8:05 PM 15 of 39

fare thee well,
good friend...


Glow..go with me and tell me your drifts but beware the muppets, they are about and raving!



The poetry police approach the door . . .
Posted by: forensicpopouri - Mar 27, 2002, 8:02 PM 16 of 39

and shout that Tea Time must come to an end.

I hope it doesn't make my dear friends sore,

or that my hasty exit will offend.



<smile> [Will wrap up shortly with top secret information. <g>]



Others who sang
Posted by: glow - Mar 27, 2002, 8:01 PM 17 of 39

The Marti's singing was fine and dandy
And Fury sounded like Pavoratti.


Why didn't Joss sing and join in the fun
And have his shining moment in the sun?

(Rhyming couplets in iambic pentameter, I think?)



My thanks to glow for keeping me in line . . . [iambic pentameter]
Posted by: forensicpopouri - Mar 27, 2002, 7:58 PM 18 of 39


I've let our dearest Pleasant get by on charm.

But it is also true that I don't whine

when syllables set off the count-alarm.



[sonnet pattern alternating rhyme / iambic pentameter]



Alas, dear glow!
Posted by: Pleasant Guest - Mar 27, 2002, 7:56 PM 19 of 39

My regards to "the forms"
hath never been strict or overly attentive...

If it displeases our gentle friend,
be lief I'll take my leave at once

rather than offend any with bad poetry.

We are but the stuff dreams are made of,
and after all,
I cannot be gifted in everything...

: )



(a silly aside) <g>
Posted by: forensicpopouri - Mar 27, 2002, 7:53 PM 20 of 39

Did Marti Noxon singing in "Once More . . ."

impress you . . . or did you think her a wh*re? <smile>


(Parking Ticket song)



Pleasant_Guest
Posted by: glow - Mar 27, 2002, 7:52 PM 21 of 39

Forensic Popouri has rules for tea,
Responses and queries must have form see.

Write sonnets or haikus it's up to you,
These poetic styles follow their own rule.

Shakespearean sonnets parameter
is in the iambic pentameter.

The poem called Haiku I choose to use
Three lines long and syllables are the cues.

(Couplets in iambic pentameter, I think?)



"Angel" in opera!
Posted by: Pleasant Guest - Mar 27, 2002, 7:47 PM 22 of 39

His precious son,
stol'n away by ill-favoured circumstance
should easily make us weep...

Then play along,
let violins sob, harps offer lame comfort,
and audition qualified singers...

: )



TITLE: Regaining Buffy's (Whedon's) Light Touch
Posted by: forensicpopouri - Mar 27, 2002, 7:44 PM 23 of 39


Back in the "lighter" days . . . when they had fun

the characters would lightly mock themselves . . .


. . . or rather mock the show itself with glee.

Postmodern referential stuff, you see.


[TO BE CONTINUED] <g>



(rhyming couplets of iambic pentameter . . . reach out and grab you by the nose . . . <g>)
Posted by: forensicpopouri - Mar 27, 2002, 7:39 PM 24 of 39


Not now, but later, scan my sonnets 4.

Perhaps they'll make my case before you snore.


<smile>



forensicpopouri...
Posted by: Pleasant Guest - Mar 27, 2002, 7:38 PM 25 of 39

to the clever,
the innovator, and the Devil,
there is always
a "new way"
to do anything...

(smile serenely, in winged cat form, tail flicking.)



(1) If every show
Posted by: glow - Mar 27, 2002, 7:35 PM 26 of 39

were filled with tunes galore
I might become bored.

(2) At first I would smile,
and memorise each song sung,
until all I could...

(3) hear in my head were
Buffy songs or melody.
My mind would implode.

(forms in haiku)



(blank verse) <smile>
Posted by: forensicpopouri - Mar 27, 2002, 7:34 PM 27 of 39


The big point that I want to raise is this:

Is there some new way to do musicals?


two lines of unrhymed iambic pentameter: i.e., blank verse



Since musicals delight my soul, fed on steady repast since I was but a yearling...
Posted by: Pleasant Guest - Mar 27, 2002, 7:33 PM 28 of 39

methinks I like best
the OCCASIONAL music (in episode)

after all,
the characters must be held
to some dramatics
where music may NOT suit...



Does this baggage tax . . .
Posted by: forensicpopouri - Mar 27, 2002, 7:30 PM 29 of 39

. . . in some mysterious way? <g>

Back to THE QUESTION.
<smile>

HAIKU



Dearest Glow...
Posted by: Pleasant Guest - Mar 27, 2002, 7:29 PM 30 of 39

Desire is only a dread demon...


(1) Hello dear Pleasant Guest
Posted by: glow - Mar 27, 2002, 7:28 PM 31 of 39

chapter 12 of your fanfic
I have read over.


(2) Soon I will give you,
after our tea time,
the feedback you desire.

(forms in haiku)



A Lazy Pleasant? What? Away with you, baggage!!!
Posted by: Pleasant Guest - Mar 27, 2002, 7:26 PM 32 of 39

Nay, not lazy am I,
but proud am I
I have labours a-plenty to tax me!!!
; )



Welcome dear friend, glow!
Posted by: forensicpopouri - Mar 27, 2002, 7:26 PM 33 of 39


What if ev'ry episode
were a musical?


HAIKU



"Once More With Feeling" pleas'd me greatly
Posted by: Pleasant Guest - Mar 27, 2002, 7:23 PM 34 of 39

And yet,
the divers "gifts" of the cast so lately
shown to be dissimilar...

However do they manage thus,
their heroine canst not sing?



<b>(1)</b> Oh goody, I say
Posted by: glow - Mar 27, 2002, 7:23 PM 35 of 39

It's time for my tea break with...
FP my new friend.

(2) I see our topic...
today is music of Joss
I give him my vote

(3) For best Buffy show.
A brilliant idea that
Is what I must say.



Art requires constraint . . .
Posted by: forensicpopouri - Mar 27, 2002, 7:22 PM 36 of 39

. . . into which truth must be poured.

Are you lazy, Pleasant?
<g>

HAIKU



pondering in solitude <g>
Posted by: forensicpopouri - Mar 27, 2002, 7:20 PM 37 of 39

Once More With Feeling showed me one clear thing:
that Buffy's perfect "tone" is when they sing.

(NOTE: a rhyming couplet of iambic pentameter)



Oh my dear! : (
Posted by: Pleasant Guest - Mar 27, 2002, 7:18 PM 38 of 39

However shall I gain advantage
when form overshadows thoughts,

and the words simply become--
play?



I'll be haikuing . . .
Posted by: forensicpopouri - Mar 27, 2002, 7:05 PM 39 of 39

. . . unless a good limerick

      pops into my head.


<smile>

NOTE: The title line and the two lines in this response,
are in HAIKU form.




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