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From the back cover of the BOOK I'm reading tonight ... while not reading Bronze posts


(THE BOOK) "THE GRACE OF GREAT THINGS: Creativity and Innovation" by Robert Grudin
Posted by: forensicpopouri - Apr 09, 2002, 2:01 AM

FROM THE INTRODUCTION


Creativity is dangerous. We cannot open

ourselves to new insight without endangering

the security of our prior assumptions. We

cannot propose new ideas without risking

disapproval and rejection. Creative achievement

is the boldest initiative of mind, an adventure

that takes its hero simultaneously to the rim of

knowledge and the limits of propriety. Its

pleasure is not the comfort of the safe harbor,

but the thrill of the reaching sail.


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Having shared that, I shall now return to reading
ink on paper ... until midnight in Santa Monica (3 AM Bronze) ...
when I shall return and ... go tally the votes. <g>

POOF


you speak



Responses


holywater ... ("what book is that?") regarding the source of above quote
Posted by: forensicpopouri - Apr 09, 2002, 7:11 AM 1 of 13


The Grace of Great Things by Robert Grudin


Yep ... I said that already (up top) ...
BUT THANKS for letting me say it again. <smile>

A book for those with a taste for beauty
... and bringing more of it into the world.


Practical wisdom/philosophy for "artists" of all kinds.
(As you, yes wisely, point out ... the quote above
applies far beyond the "confines" of art.)

Hope your work day goes beautifully.

later.



Three hours after POOFing ... a P.S. to *glow* about the Pinsky book
Posted by: forensicpopouri - Apr 09, 2002, 6:20 AM 2 of 13

NOTE: About Pinsky's book ... The Sounds of Poetry ...

I've had a couple of brief face-to-face chats with Pinsky (Poet Laureate of the U.S. 1997-2000):

(1) I thanked him for page 13 of T.S.O.P.
(for articulately clarifying why iambic pentamber
is not the bongo prison it might sometimes seem).

AND I direct your attention (glow) to that page (and
nearby) specifically in connection with your concern
about the "complexity" of reading verse.

THEN remember what I said earlier (in another late
night post) about how syllable accents in WRITING VERSE
are far less complex than when you READ/PERFORM VERSE.
(I.E., you don't read it ka-BOOM ... but you write it
with that simple rule. Matching the BOOM with a normally
accented syllable.)

BOTTOM LINE ON #1: Don't let the complexities of reading
verse confuse you in learning to write formal verse.


(2) My second encounter with Pinsky was "less pleasant." <smile> He and I disagree on a fundamental point.
His big project is about getting people to pick out
a favorite poem written by some "poet" and read it aloud
(on tape) ...

My big project <g> ... (well, a side-alley, anyway)
is getting people to write their own.
(But in my case rhetorical verse ... which is
something different than poetry.)

BOTTOM LINE ON BOTH 1 & 2: Take what suits you from
everywhere (sometimes only one page<smile>) ...

Much longer than that was supposed to be. <ewg>



PINSKY
http://www.loc.gov/loc/lcib/9710/web/pinsky.html



that is so true
Posted by: holywater - Apr 09, 2002, 4:30 AM 3 of 13

..what book is that?

And not just in relation to creative works. Even to be fresh and new in day to day living requires the courage to challenge one's own opinions/morals and find something more real.

Bye - off to work now <poofing>



Dam' it
Posted by: Supernatural lawyer - Apr 09, 2002, 3:47 AM 4 of 13

Must be the daylight saving (or a whole FOUR days without the Bronze) screwing with my mind. Can't...stop...posting... Must ...go...to bed....


Bloody sodding hell !!! ... S.L. is posting in verse ... and it's not even bloody sodding TEA TIME!
Posted by: forensicpopouri - Apr 09, 2002, 3:32 AM 5 of 13


F.P. smiles with pleasure ...


Must off to bed ... or something. <smile>

HOPEFULLY TEA TIME TOMORROW: 7-8 BRONZE


FOR NOW ... I POOF



Thanks, glow and S.L. (SNL) ...
Posted by: forensicpopouri - Apr 09, 2002, 3:25 AM 6 of 13


I thought there should be some "commemoration" <smile>
of the last few days of frustration.

I am a big believer in DEMOCRACY ... and
being a realist (when I'm not being an idealist<g>) I
didn't expect a "big turnout at the polls."

But "those of us who care and know this site ought
to be better" (I'll leave it to someone more awake
than I am to come up with a catchy acronym<g>)

should place at least a little pan of our attention
span on the stove (Good Lord, where are his creative
juices tonight?<g>)


I've read all your words (in both threads) with care,
and I have made note of your votes.

The only question now ... is who has to leave the island. <g>

Bloody hell ... it's time to hit submit... before the
Bronze breaks again.



Poor rhymes from a tired Bronzer.
Posted by: Supernatural lawyer - Apr 09, 2002, 3:24 AM 7 of 13

Much time and effort is needed
To properly move the masses.
Hopefully the Powers That Be
Will be receptive to our plea.



Wandering in a midnight . . .
Posted by: forensicpopouri - Apr 09, 2002, 3:04 AM 8 of 13


forensicpopouri's off to "tally the votes." <smile>

Fear not . . . the beginning is the beginning. <g>

The fat lady is far from warming her vocal cords. <huh?>

Back in a moment.



Thanks glow
Posted by: Supernatural lawyer - Apr 09, 2002, 2:25 AM 9 of 13

One Bronzer One Vote!


SuperNatural Lawyer
Posted by: glow - Apr 09, 2002, 2:21 AM 10 of 13

I think FP will have to repost the vote thread again because it hasn't been that busy in the bronze tonight. Maybe people don't know the bronze is back up, or they are just fed up with it and don't want to come back, who knows. I would suggest posting it again in the morning around 9 or 10amish bronze time.

Of course I should go and vote shouldn't I. (sheepish smile)

*glow*



FP.. slightly worried here
Posted by: Supernatural lawyer - Apr 09, 2002, 2:14 AM 11 of 13

I just checked your previous post and very few bronzers responded... I guess it will take you more than one post.
Any ideas how to inspire the bronzers to be a little more political/pro-active about this site?
Or maybe "the community has spoken." Democracy (indifference?) can be harsh.



im dumb
Posted by: Queen_Teeya - Apr 09, 2002, 2:12 AM 12 of 13

probibly kuz that really didnt make any sence at all maybe u should read a magazine lol


Hiya Forensic Popouri
Posted by: glow - Apr 09, 2002, 2:11 AM 13 of 13

I bought that book you suggested, Robert Pinsky's The Sounds Of Poetry. I only read the first few pages, but so for I like it.

As for creation/creativity, I think that things are just waiting to be found, like a poem or a song. Did you really create that song, or was it just waiting to be discovered, for you to find it and play it. Does that make any sense? I hope I don't sound like a babbling fool.

Cyber-hugs from the one and only *glow*




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