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From
the back cover of the BOOK I'm reading tonight ... while not
reading Bronze posts
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(THE BOOK) "THE GRACE OF GREAT
THINGS: Creativity and Innovation" by Robert
Grudin
Posted by: forensicpopouri - Apr 09, 2002, 2:01
AM
FROM THE
INTRODUCTION
Creativity is
dangerous. We cannot open
ourselves to
new insight without endangering
the
security of our prior assumptions.
We
cannot propose new ideas without
risking
disapproval and rejection. Creative
achievement
is the boldest initiative of
mind, an adventure
that takes its
hero simultaneously to the rim of
knowledge
and the limits of propriety. Its
pleasure
is not the comfort of the safe harbor,
but
the thrill of the reaching
sail.
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Having
shared that, I shall now return to reading
ink
on paper ... until midnight in Santa Monica (3 AM
Bronze) ...
when I shall return and ... go
tally the votes.
<g>
POOF
you
speak
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Responses
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holywater ... ("what book is that?")
regarding the source of above quote
| Posted by:
forensicpopouri - Apr 09, 2002, 7:11
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The Grace
of Great Things by Robert Grudin
Yep
... I said that already (up top) ...
BUT THANKS for
letting me say it again. <smile>
A
book for those with a taste for beauty
... and
bringing more of it into the
world.
Practical wisdom/philosophy for
"artists" of all kinds.
(As you, yes wisely, point
out ... the quote above
applies far beyond the
"confines" of art.)
Hope your work day goes
beautifully.
later.
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Three hours after POOFing ... a P.S. to
*glow* about the Pinsky book
| Posted by:
forensicpopouri - Apr 09, 2002, 6:20
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NOTE: About
Pinsky's book ... The Sounds of Poetry
...
I've had a couple of brief face-to-face
chats with Pinsky (Poet Laureate of the U.S.
1997-2000):
(1) I thanked him for page
13 of T.S.O.P.
(for articulately clarifying why
iambic pentamber
is not the bongo
prison it might sometimes seem).
AND I direct
your attention (glow) to that page (and
nearby)
specifically in connection with your concern
about
the "complexity" of reading verse.
THEN
remember what I said earlier (in another late
night
post) about how syllable accents in WRITING VERSE
are
far less complex than when you READ/PERFORM
VERSE.
(I.E., you don't read it ka-BOOM ... but you
write it
with that simple rule. Matching the BOOM
with a normally
accented syllable.)
BOTTOM
LINE ON #1: Don't let the complexities of
reading
verse confuse you in learning to write formal
verse.
(2) My second encounter with Pinsky
was "less pleasant." <smile> He and I disagree on
a fundamental point.
His big project is about
getting people to pick out
a favorite poem written by
some "poet" and read it aloud
(on tape)
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My big project <g> ... (well, a
side-alley, anyway)
is getting people to write
their own.
(But in my case rhetorical
verse ... which is
something different than
poetry.)
BOTTOM LINE ON BOTH 1 & 2: Take
what suits you from
everywhere (sometimes only one
page<smile>) ...
Much longer than that was
supposed to be.
<ewg>
PINSKY
http://www.loc.gov/loc/lcib/9710/web/pinsky.html
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that is so true
| Posted by:
holywater - Apr 09, 2002, 4:30
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..what book is
that?
And not just in relation to creative works.
Even to be fresh and new in day to day living requires
the courage to challenge one's own opinions/morals and
find something more real.
Bye - off to work now
<poofing>
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Dam' it
| Posted by:
Supernatural
lawyer - Apr 09,
2002, 3:47 AM |
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Must be the daylight
saving (or a whole FOUR days without the Bronze)
screwing with my mind. Can't...stop...posting... Must
...go...to bed....
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Bloody sodding hell !!! ... S.L. is
posting in verse ... and it's not even bloody sodding
TEA TIME!
| Posted by:
forensicpopouri - Apr 09, 2002, 3:32
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F.P.
smiles with pleasure ...
Must off
to bed ... or something.
<smile>
HOPEFULLY TEA TIME TOMORROW: 7-8
BRONZE
FOR NOW ... I
POOF
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Thanks, glow and S.L. (SNL)
...
| Posted by:
forensicpopouri - Apr 09, 2002, 3:25
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I thought
there should be some "commemoration" <smile>
of
the last few days of frustration.
I am a
big believer in DEMOCRACY ... and
being a
realist (when I'm not being an idealist<g>)
I
didn't expect a "big turnout at the
polls."
But "those of us who care and know this
site ought
to be better" (I'll leave it to someone
more awake
than I am to come up with a catchy
acronym<g>)
should place at least a little
pan of our attention
span on the stove (Good Lord,
where are his creative
juices
tonight?<g>)
I've read all your words
(in both threads) with care,
and I have made note of
your votes.
The only question now ... is who has
to leave the island. <g>
Bloody hell ...
it's time to hit submit... before the
Bronze breaks
again.
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Poor rhymes from a tired
Bronzer.
| Posted by:
Supernatural
lawyer - Apr 09,
2002, 3:24 AM |
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Much time and effort
is needed
To properly move the masses.
Hopefully
the Powers That Be
Will be receptive to our
plea.
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Wandering in a midnight . .
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| Posted by:
forensicpopouri - Apr 09, 2002, 3:04
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forensicpopouri's off to "tally
the votes." <smile>
Fear not . . . the
beginning is the beginning. <g>
The fat
lady is far from warming her vocal cords.
<huh?>
Back in a
moment.
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Thanks glow
| Posted by:
Supernatural
lawyer - Apr 09,
2002, 2:25 AM |
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One Bronzer One
Vote!
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SuperNatural Lawyer
| Posted by:
glow - Apr 09, 2002, 2:21
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I think FP will have
to repost the vote thread again because it hasn't been
that busy in the bronze tonight. Maybe people don't know
the bronze is back up, or they are just fed up with it
and don't want to come back, who knows. I would suggest
posting it again in the morning around 9 or 10amish
bronze time.
Of course I should go and vote
shouldn't I. (sheepish
smile)
*glow*
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FP.. slightly worried
here
| Posted by:
Supernatural
lawyer - Apr 09,
2002, 2:14 AM |
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I just checked your
previous post and very few bronzers responded... I guess
it will take you more than one post.
Any ideas how to
inspire the bronzers to be a little more
political/pro-active about this site?
Or maybe "the
community has spoken." Democracy (indifference?) can be
harsh.
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im dumb
| Posted by:
Queen_Teeya - Apr 09, 2002, 2:12
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probibly kuz that
really didnt make any sence at all maybe u should read a
magazine lol
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Hiya Forensic Popouri
| Posted by:
glow - Apr 09, 2002, 2:11
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I bought that book you
suggested, Robert Pinsky's The Sounds Of Poetry.
I only read the first few pages, but so for I like
it.
As for creation/creativity, I think that
things are just waiting to be found, like a poem or a
song. Did you really create that song, or was it just
waiting to be discovered, for you to find it and play
it. Does that make any sense? I hope I don't sound like
a babbling fool.
Cyber-hugs from the one and
only *glow*
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