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CORKBOARD
for Wednesday's TEA TIME in L.A. (REMINDER: 7-8PM Bronze
Time)
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CORKBOARD for Tea Time in L.A.
(REMINDER 7-8PM Bronze Time / 12-1AM
London)
Posted by: forensicpopouri - Apr 10, 2002, 4:09
PM
NOTE: THIS IS NOT TEA TIME.
UNLIKE TEA TIME ...
THE TEA TIME
CORKBOARD IS A VERSE-FREE AREA
Use
the Corkboard for messages to
forensicpopouri
or discussion before or
after Tea Time. And, yes, do
post feedback
& suggestions about Tea Time
here.
BEFORE TEA TIME, READ:
tid=63873
http://www.buffy.com/bronze_posts.jsp?tid=63873
NOTE:
A TEA CHANGE
To speed up page reloads
during Tea Time
the PORTAL description will
be included
in the Sonnet of the
Day.
SOTD: #30-31/154 - The
Portal & "The Pack" -
tid=63873
Sonnet Of The
Day SEE NOTE ABOUT TEA
CHANGE
EOTD: BtVS#6 THE
PACK See the SOTD for the
storyline.
Episode Of The
Day
ROTM: APRIL IS
NATIONAL POETRY MONTH
Reminder Of The
Month
PROSE POSTCARDS FROM
FORENSICPOPOURI
* Hail to
glow for writing an iambic pentameter
rhyming couplet.
* Appreciation to
Supernatural_Lawyer for his support of
democracy.
* Hail to yelnif
AGAIN . . . for rewriting GTTM so insightfully.
Would you post it at Tea Time (or a tid) for
reference?
* My profound appreciation
to you all for your participation in
the
midst of the complexity of interactive creative
design chaos. <g>
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NEW TO
TEA TIME? SEE:
* SONNET & TEA TIME FAQ:
tid=55232
* DESTINY (THE PORTAL, THE
ORACLE, AND YOU):
tid=59313
REMINDER: Look for TEA
TIME in L.A. at the top of the Bronze threaded
forums page at 7PM Bronze Time. Tea
Time lasts one hour.
THE CORKBOARD
APPEARS APPROXIMATELY 3 HRS BEFORE TEA
TIME.
you
speak
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Responses
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THE NEW CORKBOARD HAS BEEN POSTED
(THURSDAY'S) ===============
| Posted by:
forensicpopouri - Apr 11, 2002, 4:12
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http://www.buffy.com/bronze_posts.jsp?tid=65912
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It's now 2:30 AM <smile> ... and
the rest of my response ...
| Posted by:
forensicpopouri - Apr 11, 2002, 5:40
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... will be condensed
into the POSTCARD section
of tomorrow's
CORKBOARD.
BOTTOM LINE: AGAIN, MY MOST
SINCERE,
AND PROFOUND THANKS TO YOU ALL FOR
YOUR
PARTICIPATION IN WHATEVER THE HELLMOUTH
THIS IS.
<smile>
Every day I get an
inspiration that shifts
things a
bit.
Tomorrow, TEA TIME will have absorbed the
wisdom and soul of your remarks and
sharings.
AND ... holywater inspired
(although
partly due to my misinterpretation at one
moment <g>)
a change in tomorrow's TEA TIME
...
... so look forward to a new "feature."
<smile>
FOR NOW ...
POOF
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NOTE: a slip off the right (iambic) beat
<smile>
| Posted by:
forensicpopouri - Apr 11, 2002, 5:34
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When did I lose my own
identity?
How did all facets fall to one: The
Slay'r?
Can I be never freed from
destiny?
Must I hide me 'neath layer under
lay'r?
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NOTE:
Accents are on the wrong syllable
to end a line with
Slayer/layer ... unless
you "contract" them to
one syllable.
A big deal? ... Yes ... in
this "strange world" it
is.<smile>
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PS glow's couplet is not in this
thread
| Posted by:
forensicpopouri - Apr 11, 2002, 5:24
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It is hidden in a
secret thread. <g>
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While it's on my mind . . . glow's iambic
pentameter couplet
| Posted by:
forensicpopouri - Apr 11, 2002, 5:23
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I made a note of this
up in the POSTCARDS from F.P.
section of the
CORKBOARD ...
... but this is a really big
deal.
"Getting the hang" of iambic
pentameter
can be tricky, and the delicate
distinctions
between composing and performance
pronunciation
is complex . . .
BOTTOM LINE:
Glow wrote a "perfectly formed" iambic pentameter
couplet
With the "beats" on the right
syllables.
WHY DOES THIS MATTER? Read "WHY I POST
IN SHAKESPEAREAN ..."
<serious
smile>
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I have filled four pages of a (long)
yellow legal pad with notes about your posts today
...
| Posted by:
forensicpopouri - Apr 11, 2002, 5:15
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A complete response
would require a dozen sonnets.
<serious
smile>
While I ponder more specific responses
(heaven knows
the world may be more beautiful without
them <g>),
I'll post this short quote from the
same book I
quoted a few nights ago. The Grace of
Great Things
by Robart
Grudin.
"You might even call
beauty
a kind of spiritual gravity
a
natural force of
attraction,
cohesion."
I leave
that quote as a key to . . . everything.
<smile>
(posting this now, will continue
pondering notes)
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REGARDING: 154
| Posted by:
forensicpopouri - Apr 11, 2002, 5:05
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Yes . . . that's THE
Bard's number of sonnets.
Now, buried in the
FOOTNOTES <smile> of the index
of TEA TIME
posts and sonnets ... there is highlighted
the
four-sonnet sequence I composed:
WHY I POST IN
SHAKESPEREAN SONNETS
tid=48156 and
tid=48152
Those sonnets are "my case" (oral
argument) for
why I compose prose-like thoughts into
the form
of a Shakespearean
sonnet.
This rhetorical verse that I post
here
has different purposes than poetry . .
.
BUT with that preamble <smile> ... I now
ask
"rhetorically" . . . why I list the sonnet
numbers
of what I'm posting in the Bronze this way:
(for example)
Sonnet #30-31/154
(By
the way, the sonnets you see me posting, I'm
writing
every day. They're not meant to be great
works of art.
They are daily "rhetorical exercises" .
. . with
purposes of beauty in a broader
sense than
the art of particular lines of
verse.)
Enough on that point. Something to
ponder.
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An hour and a half has passed since I
began to dwell on your words ...
| Posted by:
forensicpopouri - Apr 11, 2002, 4:48
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... my first posted
response may seem an odd choice,
but my ways are
mysterious. <smile>
Before I do what beauty
would seem to argue that I not<g>,
I shout,
Black Kevlar has lost it's appeal.
A
poet said that. A memorable one.
I am a
rhetorician. <smile>
With that perhaps
unfathomable preamble, I will now
proceed with my
"strange" choice of first response:
WHICH IS to
"stretch" prunehilda's sonnet's lines
(and shift
around the "beats") until the form
is
"perfect" iambic pentameter.
This is
"strange" . . . because "poems" should not
be
rewritten by anyone. Period. However <smile> in
this
"strange world" I/we are carving out with TEA
TIME,
I have (I hope you'll trust me on this) good
cause
to "make a big deal" about conforming to
form.
SO: WHAT FOLLOWS IS AN EXERCISE IN
FORM
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I ask what is the void
within my life?
If anything, what does my
living mean?
Oh, friends and fam'ly seem to share
my strife
Yet, who among them asks my secret
dream?
When did I lose my own
identity?
How did all facets fall to one: The
Slayer?
Can I be never freed from
destiny?
Must I hide me 'neath layer under
layer?
Just slay-by-number, that's what it's
become
'Til where my heart was, now there's just
a hole.
The parts together -- now --less than the
sum.
There's more than one way you can lose your
soul.
Do dreams define the dreamer? Yes, by
far.
But, God, do I remember what mine
are?
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A few minutes past midnight in Santa
Monica . . . and I'm delighted to find beauty
here
| Posted by:
forensicpopouri - Apr 11, 2002, 3:13
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I'm going to take a
while to savor all that's been
posted here (and in
Tea Time) today . . . and respond
as beauty
demands. <serious smile>
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Just passing... Cheer
cheer!
| Posted by:
Supernatural
lawyer - Apr 10,
2002, 11:42 PM |
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"more than one way to
lose your soul"
That's beautiful. Thanks for the
verses. I liked your poem a lot (but what will FP
say...?)
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Soliloquy for Buffy (inspired by Zane
Grey)
| Posted by:
prunehilda - Apr 10, 2002, 11:16
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I wrote this the other
night just for the heck of it. The form may not be
perfect but:
Questions
I ask what is
missing from my life?
What, if anything, can all this
mean?
Oh, friends and family share my strife
Yet,
does anyone ask my secret dream?
When did I lose
my own identity
And how did I become just the
slayer?
Can I never be free from destiny?
Must I
hide me layer under layer?
Slaying by numbers
that's what it's become
'Til where my heart was
there's only a hole.
The parts together are less than
the sum.
There is more than one way to lose a
soul.
Do dreams define the dreamer? Yes, by
far
but can I remember what my dreams
are?
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Glow, don't feel bad
| Posted by:
prunehilda - Apr 10, 2002, 10:58
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I thought you were
talking about numerology or feng shui, both of which are
very interesting ideas.
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Thanks prunehilda
| Posted by:
glow - Apr 10, 2002, 10:14
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Now I feel like a
dolt. But thanks for the information. See what happens
when you over think things. *sigh*
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Shakespeare
| Posted by:
prunehilda - Apr 10, 2002, 8:35
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The great bard wrote
154 sonnets.
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Post Script
| Posted by:
glow - Apr 10, 2002, 8:22
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You mentioned earlier
the number 154, that it has some significance. Put me
down as not knowing the significance. But here's some
math with that number.
1+5+4=10
1+0=1
15+4=19 1+9=10 1+0=1
1+54=55 5+5=10
1+0=1
1+1+1=3
10+19+55=84 8+4=12
1+2=3
The one and only *glow*
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One haiku, a quote and the rest is simply
prose.
| Posted by:
glow - Apr 10, 2002, 8:11
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The hour is up.
I'm even more intrigued.
My interest is
peeked.
The oracle said,
"Who will
transcend this room and zap away
beyond the
shimm'ring wall that faces west?"
I feel like
we're unwittingly auditioning for a part; a part that
has not been defined as of yet. What is past that
"shimm'ring wall?" *Sigh* I don't need an oracle to know
that a straightforward answer is not in my immediate
future.
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Taking "OFF" the Oracle's costume
<g> Good Lord! . . .
| Posted by:
forensicpopouri - Apr 10, 2002, 8:10
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POOF (until midnight
in Santa Monica)
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Taking of the Oracle's costume
<smile> . . . (I'll check back
later)
| Posted by:
forensicpopouri - Apr 10, 2002, 8:08
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Good Lord, I'm
tired. <g> I am off to dine . . . and sleep.
<smile>
I'll check back here later (around
midnight in Santa Monica 3:00 AM Bronze),
and read
everything posted here with care, and
respond.
Again, my most sincere thanks to all for
participating in TEA TIME.
POOF (but I'll
look once more time)
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FP
| Posted by:
Supernatural
lawyer - Apr 10,
2002, 6:48 PM |
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I would NEVER find Tea
Time tedious. . Nothing better for intellectual
stimulation (or headaches! --smile--).
If you read
our (my) poor prose on the Corkboard with care, with
care I will read your rich verses on Tea
Time.
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oops HTML error in NOTE
below
| Posted by:
forensicpopouri - Apr 10, 2002, 6:37
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("SMALLER BUT BIGGER
NOTE" should have been smaller. <g>)
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NOTE TO SELF: I really like this
CORKBOARD idea . . .
| Posted by:
forensicpopouri - Apr 10, 2002, 6:35
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NOTE TO ALL: I think
much higher quality thoughts
because of you.
<serious smile>
Getting ready for Tea Time
post. Will read everything
here on the CORKBOARD
with great care later.
NOTE: I've heard the
ORACLE team <g>
has been working on his
BLANK VERSE generator.
SMALLER BUT
BIGGER NOTE: If TEA TIME seems pointless
and
tedius . . . it's because it's being
designed
as we go along . . . in response to
interactions.
It should get more interesting as the
days progress.
NOTE: I wonder how many know the
significance of
the number 154?
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prunehilda
| Posted by:
Supernatural
lawyer - Apr 10,
2002, 6:11 PM |
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I like your quote. I
would add that, in addition to materialism, cynism is
another great "evil" of our time (I plead guilty by the
way). Coming from Europe (France)where people are even
more cynic/desilusioned than in the US (it's a myth that
France is a romantic country! We're the kings of
sarcasm!) , I can tell you it's refreshing to see people
with the courage to still have ideals and write about
them.
Just my 2 cents!
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Hi FP. Doesn't anyone sleep around
here?
| Posted by:
prunehilda - Apr 10, 2002, 6:01
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I won't be able to
participate in Tea Time for a couple of days...behind in
my work. I've got to be strong and resist the
temptations of tea for awhile. I never was a pack animal
anyway. (I will watch from the sidelines though.)
I
read with interest the piece on creativity and it just
so happens that I had started to read my copy of To The
Last Man by Zane Grey the night before.(I collect old
hard cover books by Zane Grey) The foreward contained a
passage that may be of interest.
"In this
materialistic age, this hard, practical, swift, greedy
age of realism, it seems there is no place for writers
of romance, no place for romance itself.For many years
all the events leading up to the great war were
realistic, and the war itself was horribly realistic,
and the aftermath is likewise. Romance is only another
name for idealism; and I contend that life without
ideals is not worth living. Never in the history of the
world were ideals needed so terribly as now. Walter
Scott wrote romance; so did Victor Hugo; and likewise
Kipling, Hawthorne, Stevenson. It was Stevenson,
particularly, who wielded a bludgeon against the
realists. People live for the dream in their hearts. And
I have yet to know anyone who has not some secret dream,
some hope, however dim, some storied wall to look at in
the dusk, some painted window leading to the
soul."
This was written in 1922 but here was a
man after my own heart. A man with both feet on the
ground but who couldn't help looking up at the stars. I
jumped out of bed and wrote a soliloquy for Buffy but
I'm working on a real poem.
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TO: Supernatural_Lawyer RE: "The Project"
(Democracy)
| Posted by:
forensicpopouri - Apr 10, 2002, 5:02
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"Poll results"
<smile> (small sampling though it
was)
indicated "the people" were not ready to "rise
up." <smile>
The Project should
therefore take a more subtle path.
"Real
politik"? .... True. But not the "forget
it"
kind. Just the "sneaky" kind.
<smile>
Again, my profound appreciation of
your support for
democracy. The question
we must answer
(evolve) is what form it takes
in the UPN Buffyverse.
Later.
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FP (re-post-- did not notice your
previous post was not the Corkboard.)
| Posted by:
Supernatural
lawyer - Apr 10,
2002, 4:21 PM |
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Oops... Forgot my
first born. Rain check?
Won't participate today
(non-native English speaker here; already had a hard
time with the haikus!) but I look forward to reading the
Bronzers' verses.
Following up on our previous
"project," any chance our voices get heard about this
site? Or has "real politik" hit you... ie the demos does
not really want the cratos after all? Bread and games
make the Bronzers happy...and forgetful? Merciful
Zeus!
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